Science 911Truth firefighters debate degenerates into brains talk and advice slinging

im tellinyu you iz demolition .. iz inside job

via firegeezer.com

www.FireFightersFor911Truth.org ... www.ae911truth.org ... www.krunchd.com/911

>>>> I understand what the scientific facts are, I believe in facts and science, therefore I do understand that 911 WTC attacks are controlled demolition, therefore inside false flag operation pretext for wars.

==========================
OK Petr, I thought (foolishly...optimistically...naively....yeah I know guys you were laughing at me the whole time) that perhaps we could have a discussion and maybe, just maybe you would recognize the futility of your position. For every site you have listed, from your own little "investigate911blog" to all of the others, there are twice as many sites which explain (much more accurately and succinctly, using proper scientific method and input from actual experts in the related fields) how the events of 9/11 occurred and how every conspiracy claim is false. Just for kicks, why not take a look at just one: http://www.debunking911.com/in...

I thought I saw a glimmer of hope when you acknowledged another explanation for your "iron spherules". However that washed away when I read your blog.

Anyway, take care and keep an open mind, ...... "but don't keep your mind so open that your brains fall out" (quoting Michael Shermer, Skeptic Magazine)

=====================================
Mr Valley,

so they were laughing at you for having a discussion with opposing views? wow. how about that ......

why cant we have a discussion if you wanted it? you do have a written permission from DHS and TSA, right ??

you say i should "recognise the futility of my position" ?? see this is not about me, or about futility .. this is about 911 attacks, and about factuality, truth, about factual correctness ..

So this your post, is it an invitiation to debate? so in that case, are you going to address points i make when its my turn?

i know what government says 911 attacks are, and i know what debunking sites or nist say. i think its all deliberate propaganda lie and coverup of a big crime of 911 false flag inside operation. Per irrefutable scientific evidence, you see ... www.ae911truth.org

* iron spherules .. i have full confidence in 911 truth experts investigating them, and stating they are proof that explosives melted iron during controlled demolition collapse.

Yourself too, Sir, have a good time :] ... i am open minded, yes, and im well aware that debris falling out of budding american fascism could crush one's hopes for truth, for meaningful debate with firefightin guys! .. they laugh so much, right .. its almost asinine ...

my brains would not "fall out" if i kept my mind too opened .. theyd levitate around, buoyed by the strenghs of my knowledge, my wisdom and my understanding ...

see ya then around the net :]

www.FireFightersFor911Truth.org

and i want you to do one thing, if you would .... type up a post like this

>>>>>>>>>

" I am a proud American, Im not in fear of anything or anybody in this world, much less the Truth, and I will state this freely.

911 attacks are controlled demolition inside false flag operation." Per irrefutability of evidence.

would you now please print it out, spit on it, and stick it on the forehead of your captain commander ?? ..... and you know why? ...

maybe his brains will lit up ! .. with the fire, with the beauty, with relieve and release of The Truth come out itself !! ..

should his brains fall out, then you'l take up his position. ... shiits why wouldnt you

here is my big 911Truth blog:

http://911investigate.blogpost.com

and another great one

www.twitter.com/911news , www.twitter.com/911record

One big global corporations oil wars fraud on America.

First, elites, global corporations bankrupted US, looted budgets, stopped paying taxes.

Now they shriek debt ceiling and push that as pretext to further looting, destroying social contract, people and industry of America.

STOP THAT TILL ITS TIME.

US Congress split over debt issue -
http://pulse.me/s/UPuE

What wars will elite mafia pick up to wage now?

What enemy to create?
Communism? Arab countries? Tertorism? America itself?

Free Energy An Absolute Imperative For The Future Of The Earth And Humanity. Energy Revolution Now.

The global controllers’ suppression of making available any practical device has been 100% airtight, in spite of numerous attempts to break through.

Covert assassinations, threats, thefts, draconian laws prohibiting the patenting of such devices and lack of funding have all thwarted development.

This war perpetrated by elite corporations and the U.S. and other rich oligarchies against humanity and nature has only escalated over the past few years.

The unfolding of these crimes provides a stark contrast to how things could be in a better world.

We need nothing less than profound systemic change in our political, economic and social systems in order to have clean energy, and that must happen sooner than is comfortable for most of us.

But our discomfort and disease coming from an imperiled biosphere would be far worse.

We need a revolution, a peaceful transformation.

Its centerpiece should be a clean energy solution revolution that could restore sustainability and sensibility to the world.

via preventdisease.com

remark: Ok, but a concept of vacuum zero point energy is rather radical. Cold fusion sounds more familiar.

We shall see that the pervasive use of carbon trading, biofuels, alternative hydrocarbons such as the tar sands of Alberta and oil shale of Utah, carbon sequestration at coal mines, the hydrogen economy, nuclear power, hybrid cars, air cars—even solar and wind--can only distract us from what we really need to do in the long run.

We shall see that these “solutions” are just smoke and mirrors in the well-publicized energy sideshow.

As journalist George Monbiot put it, the first way to keep from environmental and climate disaster would be to keep carbon (and uranium) in the ground. But then what?

My journalist-colleague Keith Lampe has well expressed a scenario for our future energy choices.

He suggests that existing “renewable” technologies such as solar and wind be implemented as first-generation energy, while we develop forthwith second-generation energy such as zero-point, cold fusion and advanced hydrogen technologies.

Both options, he feels, need equal time, whether it’s in Congressional hearings or in public discourse.

Looked at in this light, we can evolve an energy policy that makes sense, and could give us a much better chance to reverse climate change before it’s too late.

other resource, wind and solar:
www.krunchd.com/solar

The SHOCKING Power of Solar and Wind. Energy needs provided for, for free. Why wars for oil?

If that area on picture, size of Austria, was covered in solar thermal power plants, it would produce enough electricity to meet WORLD demand ... hard to believe, but that's what exactly it is.

Smaller red square area covered with soalr power plants would satisfy electricity needs of Europe, the smallest one would cover Germany's energy demand...

http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-43450-9.html#backToArticle=630699

via friendfeed.com

Grand brainwashi­ng of oil coal atom military war standing industries­. Trying to kill off to them disruptive element new technologies.

!! Every 40 minutes, enough solar energy hits the USA to cover its energy needs for 1 year !!
http://www.time.com/time/video/player/0,32068,33575328001_1916895,00.html

!! In 6 hours, deserts receive more solar energy than humankind consumes in 1 year !!
http://des­ertec.org

!! Windpower Could Provide 40 Times Earth's Power Needs !!

http://www.popsci.com/environment/article/2009-07/more-windpower-previously-t...

http://fri­endfeed.co­m/solarthe­rmal

http://preventdisease.com/home/tips102.shtml

911 Truth Controlled Demolition Science Debate continues

via firegeezer.com

points were made that Hindus cremate their dead on banks or river Gangus, therefore bodies could have been cremated into disappearence by events of 911 attacks
but http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2011/05/renown-medical-examiner-expert-witness.html

and

that iron spherules were created by cutting action after the collpase or even during construction.
I did not have clear answer off hand for that.

Mr Valley, Il be replying to you in your text with >>>>> at left

Sir, your assertions are unfortunately mostly incorrect:.
>>>>> my assertions are scientific facts, made by science experts. They may not be politically or war propaganda correct, however thay are factually correct.

1. It was NOT sudden; the collapse of WTC1 and 2 were preceeded by the impact of widebodied jet aircraft that caused significant structural damage and ignited massives fires on multiple floors resulting in the weakening and eventual failure of the steel supports causing a progressive collapse.
>>>> it WAS sudden. from 0 to total collapse in about 11 sec, close to free fall speed, about 11 floors per second disappeared.

Building WTC 7 WAS NOT hit by any airplanes, yet it collapsed straight down, in its footprints, in 6.5 sec free fall uniform sudden onset.

If there was any weakening of a structure, we would see ununiform topple over of buildings, and not through path of greatest resistence - strainght donw, but sideways, and irregularly.

What we see is that thousands of bolts failed uniformely, in concert, as if "on command" ... indeed.
http://911research.wtc7.net/wt...

2. It was not symmetric, however it was progressive.
>>>> it WAS symmetric, regular, ALL 3 buildings, on one day, collapsed straight down into their footprints ..... progressive? what d oyou mean? probalby the speed of free call, correct? or, close to free fall ...

3. Yes, there was pulverization of components of the structure, as would be expected in this type of collapse.
>>>>> yes, pyroclastic cloud. impossible other than with explosives. type of collapse is master controlled demoliton.

4. What source are you using for this statement? What measuring tools were used? What benchmarks were used to determine the speed?
>>>>> sources, again, all science experts patriots : www.ae911truth.org .. www.stj911.org ...list at www.krunchd.com/911 , and www.911investigate.blogspot.co... . another list at www.911UnitedWeInvestigate.blgospot.commeasuring tools? a stopwatch. benchmarks? seconds from the begining of fall.

5. The buildings DID NOT fall into their own footprint, as is evidenced by the destruction of and significant damage to, numerous other buildings in the WTC complex and beyond (ex. WTC 3, 4, 5, 6 etc... see the link for a full list http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F...
>>>> NO. buildings DID fall into their footprints. otherwise you'd see irregular topple over of intact buildings - that in case no explosives were used.
The damage to side buildings is from debris ejected from controlled demoliotion charges being exploded.

6. What is your source? What is your definition of "cremated"? If Hindus can cremate bodies on open wood fires beside the Ganges, why would it be impossible or unusual for bodies to have been similarly burned in the fires of WTC1 and 2?
>>>> http://911investigate.blogspot.com/2011/05/renown-medical-examiner-expert-wit...

This medical expert says temperature of fires must be higher than office or kerosene fires. Temperatures must be sustained.

As seen from western crematoriums chambers. I believe it is quite hard to entirely burn a human body.

7. This was a building collapse, not a volcano; "pyroclastic" is an incorrect term for the dust clouds, they would be more accurately described as turbidity flows I believe.
>>>> pyroclastic because of its fine structure and a flow movement

8. What is your source? Was the material definitively identified as "melted iron"? There were certainly fires smouldering for many weeks in the pile, as would be expected. I have personally witnessed a large pile of brush from a field clearing operation burn and smoulder for 2 solid weeks through various types of weather.
>>>> source: www.ae911truth.org
yes, iron spherules, you can see it on pictures.
you can see pictures of nanothermite high military explosive

What was smouledring for 3 months was a molten metal, red hot after 3 months. What would be the explanation other than high tech military incendiary explosive were presnt and used?

How would office fires or kerosene flare melt a metal??

9. What is your source? No report that I have seen indicated "explosives" were found. The chemical components of thermite were likely present as naturally occurring components of the structure and contents of the WTC buildings. Besides, thermite would have been a ridiculously inefficent tool to use for a controlled demo due to the quantity required and slow speed of reaction.
>>>> source: www.ae911truth.org for one, www.stj911.org, http://911research.wtc7.net
specifially info on explosives found ....

The material used is not naturally occuring, but new high tech secret nanothermite. Unexplodded it was found in the dust of WTC.
Can you somehow explain, or obfuscate that?

10. Iron spherules? Which means what? They easily could have been present from the welding and cutting operations that took place as the WTC was being constructed. They were certainly produced by the cutting operations during the rescue and recovery operations after the collapse.
>>>> iron spherules means that temperature were reach od melting iron, and that is NOT possible with office or kerosene fires.

them being from cutting operations? good point, im sure its addressed somewhere in the research.

Petr, why do your feel inclined to believe in a conspiracy in this instance? Have you read the articles you are commenting on? Do you realize that the vast majority of rational people would consider many of your statements to be highly implausible? Have you heard of Occams razor?

>>>> I understand what the scientific facts are, I believe in facts and science, therefore I do understand that 911 WTC attacks are controlled demolition, therefore inside false flag operation pretext for wars.

I have read the article we are commenting on.

Vast majority of rational people need to look at what rational, scientific facts and evidence are ... They are, in this case, worked over by clever propaganda media.

No, I have not heard of Occams razor ...
Il take a look. What is it, some movie? .., with a lot stars in it ??

Daily NATO War Crimes in Libya. Bombing colonial terrorist assault war.

Since NATO began bombing on March 19, daily attacks inflicted lawless collective punishment against millions in Gaddafi supported areas. Affected is their ability to obtain food, medicines, fuel and other basic supplies, exposing another lie about humanitarian intervention.

via warisacrime.org

Among war crimes is is waging war on truth, Western managed news calling lawless imperial wars a liberating ones.

Constant bombing destroying the infrastructure of the country, similar to attack on Iraq and Afghanistan.

Criminal NATO, in fact, calls civilian targets legitimate ones, including one or more hospitals, a clinic, factories, warehouses, agricultural sites, schools, a university, one or more mosques, non-military related infrastructure, a food storage facility, and others.

Notably on July 23,2011 a Brega water pipe factory was struck, killing six guards.

It produces pipes for Libya's $30 billion Great Man-Made River system (GMMR), an ocean-sized aquifer beneath its sands, making the desert bloom for productive agriculture, and supplying water to Libya's people.

As a result of criminal western assault, civilian casualties in Libya mount, up to 1,200 or more killed and thousands wounded in pro-Gaddafi areas, many seriously as war rages.

In addition, unknown numbers of combatant casualties on both sides aren't known, nor is the civilian toll in rebel held areas.

information on numbers and types of bombs, as well as other munitions aren't given. Instead, misinformation claims a humanitarian mission protects civilians - by terrorizing, killing, and injuring them, solely for imperial aims. It's why all US-led wars are fought, never for liberating reasons

Libyan oil experts warned that fuel stocks could run out in two weeks." Public transportation costs have tripled. Food prices have also soared. Tripoli residents experience electricity cuts, and clean water supplies are endangered.

Before conflict erupted, Libyans had the region's highest standard of living and highest life expectancy in Africa because Gaddafi's oil wealth provided healthcare, education, housing assistance and other social benefits.

Imperial war, of course, changed things. Libyans now hang on to survive.

www.krunchd.com/du

Only Russia now can stop fascist terrorist colonial world assault. If it wanted.
But why?
Or does it want to participate in new recolonization of world? Until maybe it realizes that it itself too is becoming a target of war assault occupation efforts.

jaxoons.com: Summary evidence. Video, posts. Great blog. 911 controlled demolition, Kennedys, ML King

via jaxoons.com

Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe
The Physics of Collapse

Wake up America. Or are you fuqtards demented ??

R. Gage, AE911Truth.org PressTV.com interview: 9/11 thermite evidence haunts US liars. 911 controlled demolition.

Press TV talks with Richard Gage, founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 truth who, backed by 1,500 architects and engineers, claims that NIST the official investigating committee has hidden much of the evidence and ignored first hand testimonials concerning building 7 in a deliberate action to support the official story by the US government.

via presstv.com

The implosion and fall of building WTC 7 on September 11, 2001, the third building, not hit by an airplane and the presence of molten metal and thermite particles only made in military labs.

www.krunchd.com/911
www.911UnitedWeInvestigate.blogspot.com
www.twitter.com/911

911 controlled demolition therefore inside false flag operation

WikiLeaks documents shed light on US bombing colonial aggression intervention war in Libya

Far from initiating a “humanitarian” intervention to protect civilians against Muammar Gaddafi’s government, Washington backed the NATO intervention for one reason only—the installation of a regime that better serves the strategic interests of the US, as well as the operations of the giant oil and gas companies.

via axisoflogic.com

Libya doesn't want to steal oil from its people and give t to western corporations. So, bomb them.

The oil giants and the US government were alarmed by threats Gaddafi made, in a January 2009 video-conference to Georgetown University students, to nationalise the oil and gas industry.

Reasons for war, invasion and killing of president Quaddafi: oil

Gaddafi’s policy forced oil and gas corporations to renegotiate their contracts under the latest iteration of Libya’s Exploration and Productions Sharing Agreement (EPSA IV).

Between 2007 and 2008, major companies such as ExxonMobil, Petro-Canada, Repsol (Spain), Total (France), ENI (Italy), and Occidental (US) were compelled to sign new deals with the NOC—on significantly less favourable terms than they had previously enjoyed—and were collectively made to pay $5.4 billion in upfront “bonus” payments.

August 2009, US Senator John McCain led a high-profile bipartisan congressional delegation to meet with Gaddafi.

McCain characterised the “overall pace of the bilateral relationship as excellent”. Senator Joe Lieberman said “we never would have guessed ten years ago that we would be sitting in Tripoli, being welcomed by a son of Muammar al-Qadhafi,” before calling Libya an “important ally in the war on terrorism.”

major “sedimentary basins with oil and gas resources had been discovered in Libya,” with seismic data indicating “much more remained to be discovered across the country.”

The scramble by dozens of international oil and gas companies to cash in on the lifting of sanctions, however, soon produced two major problems for the US government.

Firstly, in the words of a November 2007 cable, “Libyan resource nationalism”—policies designed to increase the Libyan government’s “control over and share of revenue from hydrocarbon resources.”

The cable ominously concludes that the US should demonstrate “the clear downsides” to the Libyan regime of such an approach.

second unwelcome consequence of the lifting of sanctions was that it enabled Libya to develop closer relations with US rivals, notably in Europe, China and Russia. A June 2008 cable describes a “recent surge of interest in Libya on the part of non-Western IOCs (particularly from India, Japan, Russia and China), who have won the bulk of concessions in the NOC’s recent acreage bid rounds.”

March 2009 cable describes how Italian PM Silvio Berlusconi witnessed the ratification of the Italy-Libya “friendship and cooperation” treaty, under which Italy was to pay $200 million per year for 25 years as compensation for “colonial wrong-doing,” in exchange for guaranteeing “Italian companies preference for development projects.”
An Italian official told the US embassy that the order of Italy’s interests in Libya was “oil, oil, oil, and migration.”

A May 2009 cable reports that Gaddafi told the Commander of US African Command General William Ward that “China would prevail” in Africa “because it does not interfere in internal affairs.”

WikiLeaks cables further demonstrate that the Obama administration’s bid to topple the Libyan government and its recognition of the unelected “rebel” regime in Benghazi have nothing whatever to do with “humanitarian” concerns.

Are you too brain distracted to understand the Truth ?? Then say To heck with me !! 911 Truth

9/11 controlled demolition inside job, per irrefutable scientific evidence.

via 911investigate.blogspot.com

911Truth controlled demolition, per irrefutable scientific evidence, per common sense. Therefore, an inside false flag operation.

Sudden onset symmetrical free fall speed collapse into own footprint midair pulverization implosion buildings disappeared.

Where did they go ?

Not possible other than controlled demolition.

www.krunchd.com/911
www.krunchd.com/haarp

Are you too afraid to speak the Truth ?? Then ask yourself, just how American am I ?? 911 Truth.

WTC Building #7, a 47-story high-rise not hit by an airplane, exhibited all the characteristics of classic controlled demolition with explosives:

1. Rapid onset of collapse

2. Sounds of explosions at ground floor – a second before the building's destruction

3. Symmetrical "structural failure" – through the path of greatest resistance – at free-fall acceleration

4. Imploded, collapsing completely, and landed in its own footprint

5. Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds

6. Expert corroboration from the top European controlled demolition professional

7. Foreknowledge of "collapse" by media, NYPD, FDNY

In the the aftermath of WTC7's destruction, strong evidence of demolition using incendiary devices was discovered:

8. FEMA finds rapid oxidation and intergranular melting on structural steel samples

9. Several tons of molten metal reported by numerous highly qualified witnesses

10. Chemical signature of the incendiary thermite found in solidified molten metal, and dust samples

WTC7 exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire:

1. Slow onset with large visible deformations

2. Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, to the side most damaged by the fires)

3. Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel

4. High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer lasting fires have never collapsed.

 

As seen in this revealing photo, the Twin Towers' destruction exhibited all of the characteristics of destruction by explosives:

Destruction proceeds through the path of greatest resistance at nearly free-fall acceleration Improbable symmetry of debris distribution Extremely rapid onset of destruction Over 100 first responders reported explosions and flashes Multi-ton steel sections ejected laterally Mid-air pulverization of 90,000 tons of concrete & metal decking Massive volume of expanding pyroclastic-like clouds 1200-foot-diameter debris field: no "pancaked" floors found Isolated explosive ejections 20–40 stories below demolition front Total building destruction: dismemberment of steel frame Several tons of molten metal found under all 3 high-rises Evidence of thermite incendiaries found by FEMA in steel samples Evidence of explosives found in dust samples And exhibited none of the characteristics of destruction by fire: Slow onset with large visible deformations Asymmetrical collapse which follows the path of least resistance (laws of conservation of momentum would cause a falling, intact, from the point of plane impact, to the side most damaged by the fires) Evidence of fire temperatures capable of softening steel High-rise buildings with much larger, hotter, and longer-lasting fires have never collapsed.

 

via ae911truth.org

from: www.ae911truth.org

www.911investigate.blogspot.com
www.twitter.com/911news

More PROOF Israel Behind FALSE FLAG/INSIDE JOB of 9/11. Who knew what? And when?

9/11 was a FASLE FLAG/INSIDE JOB involving Israel; and traitors in the WH, parts of the CIA, FBI and the Pentagon.

It was designed to make Americans scream for Muslim blood, so we'd do Israel's dirty work, killing off their Muslim neighbors.

At the same time, those 'Too Big to Fail' Jewish run Wall Street banks used the 9/11 scare to rob Americans of TRILLIONS of DOLLARS of wealth.

WTFU America, before it's too late.

via careandwashingofthebrain.blogspot.com

Indeed ...a good question might be, who knew what, and when .....911Truth Controlled demolition is an exceedingly complex and serious issues.

Sooner or later, there will be school of thought as to : ok, it is make it and let it happen inside flase flag operation, but
1. it just cant be said or talked about
2. maybe its ok, especially now that it happened.

It all will transforms into political questions, political game - is a false flag operation good, adviceable, legal, necessary?? Especially one on American soil involving American civilian casualties?

Is the goal of 911 false flag good or worthy - to have a good pretext for wars to finish conquest of Iraq and start other invasions?

The position on 911Truth harshly categorizes all citizens of the world to several groups: ignorant, uneducated, criminal, fascist.

There is not anything not ugly about 911WTC Controlled Demolition attack on America.

A true attack on a nation, and on a world.

Again, what were perpetrators thinking? That this will not be uncovered? That it cant be even mentioned nomatter what it is?

That Americans are wholly brainwashed and owned, the way enthusiastic fanatic throngs welcomed Hitler before the start of wwii, with brains hermetically closed to any information not regarding "stars" or "crime", possibly ?

A polygraph questionning and investigation might shed some light on these questions.

Just, it might.

www.krunchd.com/911

Norway Christian Religious Killer Was On Watch List For Suspicious Chemical Purchases

country is trying to work out how the attack could have been prevented.

via businessinsider.com

Norwegian authorities reportedly had Breivik on a "watch list" since March, after he purchased a large amount of chemicals from a Polish online store

The Daily Mail reports that Breivik's name was among 60 passed onto the Police Security Service (PST) by Norwegian Customs.

However, the PST didn't investigate further as Breivik could have been using the chemicals on his farm.
EU has decided to speed up legislation that would seek to restrict the sale of dangerous chemicals,

As the shock of the attack has given way to anger, Norway's response to the attack has come under scrutiny. It took almost an hour for a SWAT team to reach the island -- so long that local campers began rescuing victims themselves (Reuters reports that one camper is thought to have rescued 50 people).

Police have defended their response time, blaming a shortage of suitable boats and helicopters.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2018646/Norway-shooting-Anders-Behrin...

http://en.rian.ru/world/20110726/165396385.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8661084/Norway-killer...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/26/us-norway-police-response-idUSTRE76...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-14283102

-------------------
rem:
of course interdiction is good. but it also is a little bit TOO LATE.

FIRST, and education, upbringing, so that these situations CANNOT HAPPEN at all.

Also, PREVENT the EXISTENCE of fascist violent war mayhem killer videogames, being sold as "entertainment", but really serving to currupt the world population, desensitize to violence and crime, realize profits on it.

CENSOR THE CRIME !

Lead by example!!

WHY is Christian Nato bombing Libya? Mass killing in Iraq invasion occupation? 1.5 civilians dead. Afghanistan occupation? and more to come ??

I tell you why - because it can.

There is no more Soviet Union assuring Nato destruction if it commits war crimes, in a mutual destruction arrangement, so beneficial to world peace.

9/11Truth Controlled Demolition Scientific Evidence Discussion debunk

via firegeezer.com

well Mr Dave, the irrefutable scientific evidence is ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Have you been where? Searching for it? Reading it? Evaluating it?

Well let me repeat the main lines of irrefutable scientific evidence, leaving aside the common sense notion that if you saw the video, it looks exactly like a controlled demolition, and that is mainly because it is a controlled demolition. Thinking anything else means assailing a common sense.

the official investigation is demonstrably and intentionally false or nonexistent.

ok. and add to each line - NOT possible other than controlled demolition of 3 steel skyscrapers.

1. Sudden onset ...
2. Symmetric uniform collapse ...
3. Midair pulverization ...
4. Free fall speed ...
5. Fall into its footprint, through the path of greatest resistance ...
6. Victims cremated ...
7. Pyroclastic fine dust ...
8. Melted iron on the floor of WTC site, burning for months ....
9. Nanothermite explosive found in dust of WTC ...
10. Iron spherules found in dust of WTC ...

Some resources to cite:
www.911investigate.blogspot.com
www.krunchd.com/911
www.ae911truth.org

www.WorldNewsRecord.blogspot.com
www.twitter.com/911news

>>>>>really? Where's your scientific evidence? I'm an engineer and the "official" investigation was correct.

>>>>>911 is controlled demolition therefore inside false flag operation. Per irrefutable scientific evidence, per common sense.

Sudden onset, symmetric free fall speed collapse midair pulverization.

Bodies cremated?? Buildings evaporated? Or they just walked away?

Embryos with mixed genes of animals and humans produced secretively in UK for past 3 years

committee of scientists warned of a nightmare ‘Planet of the Apes’ scenario in which work on human-animal creations goes too far.

via dailymail.co.uk

variety of hybrids created, including an animal egg fertilised by a human sperm; ‘cybrids’, in which a human nucleus is implanted into an animal cell; and ‘chimeras’, in which human cells are mixed with animal embryos.

155 ‘admixed’ embryos, containing both human and animal genetic material, have been created since the introduction of the 2008 Human Fertilisation Embryology Act

Three labs in the UK – at King’s College London, Newcastle University and Warwick University

scientists were not concerned about human-animal hybrid embryos because by law these have to be destroyed within 14 days.

‘At every stage the justification from scientists has been: if only you allow us to do this, we will find cures for every illness known to mankind

Call for new rules to prevent lab animals being given human attributes, for example by injecting human stem cells into the brains of primates.

Human-animal hybrids are also created in other countries, many of which have little or no regulation

www.dailymail.co.uk

THIRTY embryos created for every baby born by IVF... and thousands are thrown away

Beware 'Planet of the Apes' experiments that could create sci-fi nightmare

State of 9/11: The Nightmarish Effects of The Departure From Reality

I write so many posts about 9/11 truth because 9/11 is the biggest window into the evil heart of the bankster-owned American empire and Israel. It exposes government villainy and institutional corruption. It gives us a scary glimpse of the horrors in our future if we do not wake up.

via opednews.com

I get chills from time to time when I think deeply about the scale of the treason and betrayal that is taking place in our age.

It is a big deal that our government leaders and media institutions are lying to us on a cosmic scale about the basic needs of life (security, freedom), and the foundations of our global society.

An unforgivable crime was committed and an even more unforgivable lie was told on September 11, 2001 by the leaders of the U.S. shadow government and Israel.

Saman Mohammadi is a soldier of the infowar, and a full-time university student in Toronto, Canada. His blog is The Excavator - http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com.

9/11 Controlled Demolition Important Science Video. FLIR Infrared Camera proves NIST and 9 11 Commission Lies

YouTube - 9/11. FLIR Infrared Camera proves NIST and 9 11 Commission Lies

www.krunchd.com/911

www.ae911truth.org

Head-Mounted Laser Microscope Peers Inside Mice's Brains as mouse moves freely.

Since rats and humans probably share similar decision-making mechanisms, this technology could help us understand how we make choices

Head-Mounted Laser Microscope Peers Inside Mice's Brains | Memory, Emotions, & Decisions | DISCOVER Magazine

Japan official: ~JAPAN could become UNINHABITABLE~

Worse than meltdown, government report says devastating 'melt-through' has occurred at Fukushima; Official suggests Japan could become 'uninhabitable'.

senior political official Ichiro Ozawa suggested in an interview with The Wall Street Journal(WSJ) that the Fukushima situation could make the entire country of Japan"unlivable."

from www.naturalnews.com

Worse than meltdown, government report says devastating 'melt-through' has occurred at Fukushima; Official suggests Japan could become 'uninhabitable'

here is your new world order

New NASA research: possible HAARP remote set off Japan earthquake, tsunami

Strange atmospheric anomalies over Japan just days before the massive earthquake and tsunami struck on March 11 - 3/11/11.

Seemingly inexplicable and rapid heating of the ionosphere directly above the epicenter reached a maximum only three days prior to the quake, according to satellite observations, suggesting that directed energy emitted from transmitters used in the High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program (HAARP) may have been responsible for inducing the quake.

from:

New NASA research points to possible HAARP connection in Japan earthquake, tsunami

yes, this would be it - a signature.

also at links directory at : krunchd.com/haarp

send your links in comments

http://worldnewsrecord.blogspot.com/2011/06/haarp-explained-remotely-set-off.html

John Edmiston Milich likes Kazi Kearse's link.

New NASA research points to possible HAARP connection in Japan earthquake, tsunami

www.naturalnews.com

North Korea Vows 'Retaliatory Military Actions' Against South Korea

Koreas nuclear conflict? .. let them start it? would get rid of that part of the worlds .. Samsung, Huyndai, Kia, LG, Daewoo, China in half,

even Toyota, Nissan, Honda, Yamaha, Kawasaki, Yamaha, Mitsubishi, Casio, Canon, Panasonic, Toshiba, Fujitsu, Lenovo. .....

North Korea Vows 'Retaliatory Military Actions' Against South Korea

but this could be too obvious an inside false war operation

... therefore, no fun.

40 000 US soldiers on Korean peninsula

Human Brain Project would build computerized mind by 2024 | DVICE

1 billion laptops can simulate a rats brain power. Human brain, 200 times more computing power needed.

reverse-engineering a small piece of rat brains. This small piece is called a cortical column, and it's made up of an intricate network of some 10,000 individual neurons, each one of which requires about as much computer power as your average laptop to model.

Put 100,000 of these columns together and you've got a model of a fully-functional rat brain.

human looking for a new brain, you're going to need something a little more complicated. Think 100,000 individual neurons per cortical column and maybe two million columns

Human Brain Project would build computerized mind by 2024 | DVICE

can they alter climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves? haarp.

� Secret Weather Weapons Can Kill Millions, Warns Top Russian Politician Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

it is a known fact that nuclear explosion in ionosphere will set off magnetic field so strong that it will paralyze any and ALL electronic devices over a vast area of Earth bellow the explosion point.

cars, computers, equipment, hospitals, cash registers, factories, practically all industry will stop working.

Zhirinovsky also warned of a coming “third world war” emerging from the current turmoil in the Middle East and North Africa that would lead to the collapse of current global institutions like the EU and the WTO and the rise of a new international order led by Russia.

tectonic weapons, haarp links inside

Scientists at NASA have discovered “A close link between electrical disturbances on the edge of our atmosphere and impending quakes on the ground below,” which has led to claims that earthquakes are being artificially induced as a form of modern warfare by HAARP.

crazy police state:make it illegal for anyone conducting searches to touch “the anus, sexual organ, buttocks, or breast of another person” including through clothing.

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2011/05/13/texas-house-bans-offensive-security-pat-downs/

... @BarackObama, Mr President, why do you choose to withhold this crucial 911 Truth information from American public?

911 United We Investigate

... @BarackObama Mr President, 911 WTC attacks are controlled demolition therefore an inside false flag operation

911 United We Investigate

Mr. Obama, @BarackObama, Sir, you are aware of court admissible irrefutable scientific evidence that 911 attacks are controlled demolition

Reveal the true nature of 9/11 events - Controlled Demolition, therefore an inside operation, per irrefutable scientific evidence, per common sense.

Nanothermite explosive found in the dust.

Buildings cannot free-fall in their own footprints, suddenly, uniformly, symmetrically, exploding, imploding, pulverizing with the speed close to free fall, 10 floors per second.

911 United We Investigate

April 24 news: 'Nuclear hellstorm' if bin Laden caught. Another false flag - Europe nuclear, in the making?

On May 1, reports bin Ladin is dead. Anything is possible when 911 is proven to be controlled demolition inside false flag operation. let it happen and made it happen - enhanced.

without inside US assitance, 911 could have never happened the way it did.

Who will set off a nuclear explosion, if one goes off? Nobody might ever know.

These are the perils if military complex taking over, ruling the world, perils of endless war for endless profits, for endless peace.

'Nuclear hellstorm' if bin Laden caught: 9/11 mastermind - Yahoo! News

Meet the real 9/11 terrorists. Important history, Fed private corporation.

Meet the real 9/11 terrorists. Important history, Fed private corporation. Bible, Egypt, real world rulers.

News headlines: Meet the real 9/11 terrorists

4-19-95 Oklahoma bombing practically proven controlled demolition inside operation. Experts agree on demolition charges. Impossible otherwise.

"massive destruction was primarily the result of four demolition charges placed at critical structural points at the third floor level."

Air Force General Benton Partin, who for years headed the Air Force Armaments Laboratory

I believe that the demolitions charges in the building were placed inside at certain key concrete columns did the primary damage to the Murrah Federal Building,”

and that,

“It would have been absolutely impossible and against the laws of nature for a truck full of fertilizer and fuel oil… no matter how much was used… to bring the building down.”

Dr. Sam Cohen, inventor of the neutron bomb

The OKC Bombing Top Ten

www.OKbombingTruth.com

We Are Change Oklahoma

http://wearechangeoklahoma.org
info@wearechangeoklahoma.org

So London bombing 7/7/5 is also inside operation.

Solar Concentrating PhotoVoltaic Farm: New technology. Combines mirrors and cells.

next

generation of solar tech.

PHOTOS: The Nichols Solar Concentrating PV Farm: Cleantech News and Analysis �

Cellphone Radiation May Alter Your Brain. Here are rules of safe use.

The Journal of the American Medical Association indicated that heavy use of cell phone could alter brain activity.

it was unclear whether the changes in the brain — an increase in glucose metabolism after using the phone for less than an hour — had any negative health or behavioral effects.

advises users to keep cellphones at a distance by putting them on speaker mode or using a wired headset whenever possible.

The next best option is a wireless Bluetooth headset or earpiece, which emit radiation at far lower levels.

If a headset isn’t feasible, holding your phone just slightly away from your ear can make a big difference; the intensity of radiation diminishes sharply with distance. “Every millimeter counts,”

So crushing your cellphone into your ear to hear better in a crowded bar is probably a bad idea.

Go outside if you have to take or make a call.

And you might not want to put your cellphone in your breast or pants pocket either, because that also puts it right up against your body.

Carry it in a purse or briefcase or get a nonmetallic belt clip that orients it away from your body.

Some studies have suggested a link between cellphone use and cancer, lower bone density and infertility in men.

But other studies show no effect at all.

You can get an idea of the relative amounts of radiation various cellphone models emit by looking at their SAR, or specific absorption rate.

the Environmental Working Group, a nonprofit organization, has a comprehensive list of the SAR values for most cellphones available from major carriers on its Web site.

But more important than looking for a low-SAR phone is how you use it.

Many cellphones emit the most radiation when they initially establish contact with the cell tower, making their “digital handshake.”

To reduce exposure it’s best to wait until after your call has been connected to put your cellphone next to your ear.

emission of radiation is “significantly less when a cellphone is receiving - you listen - signals than when it is transmitting - you talk,”

cellphone emits less when you are stationary because when you are moving rapidly — say, in a car or train — it must repeatedly issue little bursts of radiation to make digital handshakes with different towers as it moves in and out of range.

weak signal indicates it has to work harder and thus will emit more radiation. “Fewer bars means more radiation

Children’s developing brains and tissues are thought to be most vulnerable to cellphone radiation.

Health authorities in Britain, France, Germany and Russia have all issued warnings against allowing small children to use cellphones for extended periods, if at all.

from www.nytimes.com - www.nyt.com

Cellphone Radiation May Alter Your Brain. Let’s Talk. - NYTimes.com

safety, cellphones, headset buying tips in full

http://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/8-Safety-Tips

lookup cellphone radiation levels

http://www.ewg.org/cellphoneradiation/Get-a-Safer-Phone

Samsung the best, Motorola the worst, in general

Japan’s Nuclear Crisis: forensic scientific analysis. What happened.

“Clearly we’re witnessing one of the greatest disasters in modern time.”

“Clearly, there’s no access to the core,” the official said. “The Japanese are honestly blind.”

water levels at the reactor cores dropping by as much as three-quarters, temperatures in those cores soaring to nearly 5,000 degrees Fahrenheit, hot enough to burn and melt the zirconium casings that protect the fuel rods.

evaluations also show that the reactors at Fukushima Daiichi escaped the deadliest outcomes — a complete meltdown of the plant.

about 70 percent of the core of one reactor had been damaged, and that another reactor had undergone a 33 percent meltdown — came from forensic modeling.

The atomic age has seen the construction of nearly 600 civilian power plants, but according to the World Nuclear Association, only three have undergone serious accidents in which their fuel cores melted down.

now three of the reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi complex in some stage of meltdown.

By definition, a meltdown is the severe overheating of the core of a nuclear reactor that results in either the partial or full liquefaction of its uranium fuel and supporting metal lattice, at times with the atmospheric release of deadly radiation.

Partial meltdowns usually strike a core’s middle regions instead of the edge, where temperatures are typically lower.

The main meltdowns of the past at civilian plants were Three Mile Island in 1979, the St.-Laurent reactor in France in 1980, and Chernobyl in Ukraine in 1986.

a first sign of major trouble at any reactor was the release of hydrogen — a highly flammable gas that has fueled several large explosions at Fukushima Daiichi.

The gas indicated that cooling water had fallen low, exposing the hot fuel rods.

First “as the core gets hotter and hotter,” easily evaporated products of atomic fission — like iodine 131 and cesium 137 — fly out.

If temperatures rise higher, threatening to melt the core entirely, he added, less volatile products such as strontium 90 and plutonium 239 join the rising plume.

The lofting of the latter particles in large quantities points to “substantial fuel melting"

a blow-by-blow of the accident’s early hours and days.
It said drops in cooling water exposed up to three-quarters of the reactor cores, and that peak temperatures hit 2,700 degrees Celsius, or more than 4,800 degrees Fahrenheit.
That’s hot enough to melt steel and zirconium — the main ingredient in the metallic outer shell of a fuel rod, known as the cladding.

A slide with a cutaway illustration of a reactor featured a glowing hot mass of melted fuel rods in the middle of the core and noted “release of fission products” during meltdown.
The products are radioactive fragments of split atoms that can result in cancer and other serious illnesses.

Stanford, where Dr. Hansen is a visiting scholar, posted the slides online after the March presentation.
At that time, each of the roughly 30 slides was marked with the Areva symbol or name, and each also gave the name of their author, Matthias Braun.

The posted document was later changed to remove all references to Areva.

more at the original New York Times article:

Japan’s Nuclear Crisis Is Seen Clearly From Afar - NYTimes.com

from www.nytimes.com - www.nyt.com

HAARP can be used for many purposes. Enormous quantities of energy can be controlled by manipulating the electrical characteristics of the atmosphere.

The project HAARP would also allow better communications with submarines and manipulation of global weather patterns, but it is also possible to do the reverse, to disrupt communications.

By manipulating the ionosphere one could block global communications while transmitting one’s own.

Another application is earth-penetrating, tomography, x-raying the earth several kilometres deep, to detect oil and gas fields, or underground military facilities.

Over-the-horizon radar is another application, looking round the curvature of the earth for in-coming objects.

If used as a military weapon this can have a devastating impact on an enemy.

HAARP can deliver millions of times more energy to a given area than any other conventional transmitter.

The energy can also be aimed at a moving target which should constitute a potential anti-missile system.

HAARP has links with 50 years of intensive space research for military purposes, including the Star Wars project, to control the upper atmosphere and communications

wacLA.org � European Parliament issues warnings on HAARP: